[fluffyfriedrats]

right click from the position, to the place you want the arrow to go to.

[The next Diaby]

[quote name='idgy_13]here is the other problem' date=' I'm on a mac so I obviously have no right click, lol, but thank you for your help. Anyone else?[/quote']
AFAIK it is apple key and click, or buy a mouse that is less beautiful.

[Jaswarbrick]

Merry christmas everyone.

Should hold up ball mostly be used in high tempo attacking tactics, or slow tempo attacking tactics. If used in high tempo, the player will let other players past and because since the ball had been played quickly to him from the back line, it may need holding up. Or slow tempo, since the team take a while to get it to the goal, hold up ball will allow them to take more time. This one is confusing me, thanks.

[The next Diaby]

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Merry christmas everyone.

Should hold up ball mostly be used in high tempo attacking tactics, or slow tempo attacking tactics. If used in high tempo, the player will let other players past and because since the ball had been played quickly to him from the back line, it may need holding up. Or slow tempo, since the team take a while to get it to the goal, hold up ball will allow them to take more time. This one is confusing me, thanks.

Merry Christmas to you too, Jaswarbrick.

It is not really a contradiction in your question, and you could as well extend this to slow tempo defensive tactics or medium tempo defensive tactics. It all depends on what you want to achieve, as you have stated in your examples, both ideas may work, despite my impression that slow tempo is less suited for attacking tactics in 08, but certainly it is possible, depending on your approach again.

Did you already read the TB topic on HUB? We tried to show many different solutions there, but maybe some are missing?

[Jaswarbrick]

Thanks Diaby, just a little bit of conflicting advice. In the play fm thread wwfan states for attack and control, hold up ball used for wingers and attackers, and in the bible hold up ball section, Millie recommends not really using hold up ball in a flat 442 with ML/Rs. Also, in my tactics i use a deeper creative forward who has forward runs rarely and much creative freedom, and a more poachier striker with forward runs mixed and normal creative freedom (who usually swap by the way, as i play Rooney and Tevez there mostly), but it only has cases for when they are target men. Does this mean i should use one of these players as target men? If i don't, i am really not quite sure which one of these strikers should hold up the ball (the deeper one i have running with ball).

The control tactic is a bugger really. In the play fm thread wwfan suggests slow tempo and there have been thoughts on this forum of using quick tempo, but wouldn't this just be almost the same as attack? Just playing a bit wider, forward runs often if not already often for the attack tactic, and a slightly deeper defensive line? Isn't slow tempo needed for some distinguisment between the two tactics?

Another thing Diaby, have you read my thread about linking settings together? Because i have a question to ask.

http://www.fm-britai...?showtopic=6572

I am putting some finishing touches to my tactic set before uploading it to the laboratory for some testing with other users. I went some 39 games unbeaten with the set i made (in the League) from towards the end of the first season to near the end of the second season. I lost 2 games towards the end of the 2nd season although dominating both matches. I need to ask that if i upload my tactic set for testing and some problems arise, may i ask in this thread for the answers to those problems, or should i ask the questions in the thread of my tactic that contains the set which will be posted in the lab? By the way my set uses the ideas that are explained in my linking thread.

Thanks alot.

[The next Diaby]

[quote name='Jaswarbrick]Thanks Diaby' date=' just a little bit of conflicting advice. In the play fm thread wwfan states for attack and control, hold up ball used for wingers and attackers, and in the bible hold up ball section, Millie recommends not really using hold up ball in a flat 442 with ML/Rs.[/quote']

A flat 4-4-2 does not have much in common with control or any other full arrowed winger tactic, additionally HUB in control with wingers certainly will change for FM 08. I just hold up ball with attacking fullbacks for 08, but I personally think it also works without any HUB instructions.

[quote]Also, in my tactics i use a deeper creative forward who has forward runs rarely and much creative freedom, and a more poachier striker with forward runs mixed and normal creative freedom (who usually swap by the way, as i play Rooney and Tevez there mostly), but it only has cases for when they are target men. Does this mean i should use one of these players as target men? If i don't, i am really not quite sure which one of these strikers should hold up the ball (the deeper one i have running with ball).[/quote]

I am using HUB with quick forwards as well, it depends on what you want to achieve. It does not really have to be linked to supply to head. It is particularly useful if playing on the counter and wasting too many one-on-ones with quick target men receiving the ball in the final third. It is the question if you want to HUB at all with such a combo, I would consider using it only for counter attacking tactics.

[quote]The control tactic is a bugger really. In the play fm thread wwfan suggests slow tempo and there have been thoughts on this forum of using quick tempo, but wouldn't this just be almost the same as attack? Just playing a bit wider, forward runs often if not already often for the attack tactic, and a slightly deeper defensive line? Isn't slow tempo needed for some distinguisment between the two tactics?[/quote]

Not really, it can also be passing and width. I also tend to slow down tempo for my control tactics, but I keep it at a mixed level compared to the slow tempo in 07. The important factor is keeping as much possession as possible while putting maximum pressure on the very deep lying opposition. The difference between attack and control is more subtle than it was in 07. I personally tend to use overloading tactics more often now.

[quote]Another thing Diaby, have you read my thread about linking settings together? Because i have a question to ask.

[url=http://www.fm-britain.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=6572]http://www.fm-britain.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=6572[/url]

I need to ask that if i upload my tactic set for testing and some problems arise, may i ask in this thread for the answers to those problems, or should i ask the questions in the thread of my tactic that contains the set which will be posted in the lab? By the way my set uses the ideas that are explained in my linking thread.

Thanks alot. [/quote]

I did read it, but probably I should read it again. I really don't care, post your questions wherever you think they may get the best answers.

[D - Pak]

when i try to open .pkm in FM 2007 using the 'View Match' option from the main screen, the loading bar completes but then the screen goes blank and crashes. I get a dialog box saying that 'an error log has been generated in C:\Program Files\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2007'

Why is that so?

[Jaswarbrick]

Thanks Diaby, for some reason also another major bugger is that i can't seem to get much posession (52-53%) at home with my Man United team. I usually start home games with the attack tactic i have made, and not sure if the quick (15) tempo has anything to do with it. While away from home against teams i should beat, i use my balanced tactic which usually gets me around 57%. I dont know why this is, maybe because in the attack tactic every player's through balls are set to often, but this is suggested in the Play fm thread. Could i upload it here for you to take a little look? I know you are probably very busy testing your own tactics and other things, but posession just won't come for me. Thanks

Attached File(s)

•  442_RoO_Attack.tac (996bytes)
  Number of downloads: 54

[Millie]

[quote name='ekhie]Does the "weaker foot if it matches his flank" in this context mean that if there's AM R who is right-footed' date=' he should be shoved to his left foot, sort of blocking the way to the byline and force the winger to either cut-in or side/back-pass?[/quote']
Short answer? Yup!

[Millie]

Ultra-defensive and all-out attack (the most extreme team settings) override the individual settings, and are the equivalent to having the entire team on 2 or 21 global mentality.

I think the "semi target man" system still works in '08, but you'll have to ask some others that use it on a more regular basis than I do.

[zeusbheld]

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Short answer? Yup!

so if he's an "either foot" type, is that what the "left foot/right foot" options are for? or should we just let this brigand have his way with our pitch and capture our wenches for his un-Godly purposes?

[The next Diaby]

[quote name='zeusbheld]so if he's an "either foot" type' date=' is that what the "left foot/right foot" options are for? or should we just let this brigand have his way with our pitch and capture our wenches for his un-Godly purposes?[/quote']
In this case you still could show on left foot if he plays on the right side to force him to stay outside, but I would not do this with a player who has both options, it could make your defenders get caught on the wrong side and lose many key tackles. Showing on the weak foot can support defence and other instructions, but it is not the only way and certainly will not stop a player completely or take him out of the game.

[zeusbheld]

[quote name='The next Diaby]In this case you still could show on left foot if he plays on the right side to force him to stay outside' date=' but I would not do this with a player who has both options, it could make your defenders get caught on the wrong side and lose many key tackles. Showing on the weak foot can support defence and other instructions, but it is not the only way and certainly will not stop a player completely or take him out of the game.[/quote']

i'm just thinking, if they have a forward or forwards who are strong in the air, would this force the winger to cut inside and thus *not* make a cross that might spell trouble? i notice that when cutting in, mos wingers (so far) in 2k8 take the shot themselves. common defensive strategy in basketball to try and decide which opponent you want taking the shot, trying to make their worst shooters beat you. or will my defender getting caught on the wrong side cuase more problems than it's worth?

so far i've been having OK luck with it, but only against relatively crappy wingers, i don't dare try it against miss Christiano Ronaldo.

[junkykid81]

I'll just want to ask u, what is the differential between FCd = Deep Lying Forward and FCa = Advanced Forward?

Is it the FCd is a targetman or not really?