WORLD CUP 2010: Group C (Algeria, England, Slovenia, USA)

[Levo]

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Algeria

Slovenia vs Algeria

Starting Formation



Player Instructions                        

Pos.		Role	Duty
GK	16 Faouzi CHAOUCHI	Keeper	Defend
DL	3 Nadir BELHADJ	Wing-back	Attack
DCl	5 Rafik HALLICHE	Limited Defender	Defend
DCr	2 Madjid BOUGHERRA	Limited Defender	Defend
DR	4 Anther YAHIA	Fullback	Defend
DMCl	8 Medhi LACEN	Anchor man	Defend
DMCr	19 Hassan YEBDA	Defensive midfielder	Support
ML	15 Karim ZIANI	Winger	Support
MR	13 Karim MATMOUR	Winger	Support
FCR	21 Foued KADIR	Deep-lying forward	Attack
STl	11 Rafik DJEBBOUR	Poacher	Attack

                        
Team Instructions                        

Philosophy	Balanced
Passing	More direct
Creative Freedom	Less freedom
Closing Down	Default
Tackling	Default
Marking	Default
Crossing	Default
Roaming	Default
Main Strategy	Balanced

            


England

USA vs England

Starting Formation



Player Instructions                        

Pos.		Role	Duty
GK	12. Robert Green	Keeper	Defend
DL	3. Ashley Cole	Fullback	Attack
DCl	6. John Terry	Defender	Defend
DCr	20. Ledley King	Defender	Defend
DR	2. Glen Johnson	Fullback	Attack
MCl	8. Frank Lampard	Central Midfielder	Support
MCr	4. Steven Gerrard	Central Midfielder	Support
ML	16. James Milner/ Wright-Phillips	Winger	Support
MR	07. Aaron Lennon	Inside Forward	Attack
FCl	10. Wayne Rooney	Advanced Forward	Attack
STr	21. Emile Heskey	Target Man	Support

                        
Team Instructions                        

Philosophy	Rigid
Passing	Default
Creative Freedom	Default
Closing Down	Default
Tackling	Default
Marking	Default
Crossing	Default
Roaming	Default
Main Strategy	Standard

Slovenia

Algeria vs Slovenia

Starting Formation



Player Instructions                        

Pos.		Role	Duty
GK	1 Samir HANDANOVIC	Keeper	Defend
DL	13 Bojan JOKIC	Fullback	Support
DCl	4 Marko SULER	Limited Defender	Defend
DCr	5 Bostjan CESAR	Limited Defender	Defend
DR	2 Miso BRECKO	Fullback	Support
MCl	8 Robert KOREN	Central Midfielder	Support
DMCr	18 Aleksandar RADOSAVLJEVIC	Defensive midfielder	Defend
ML	17 Andraz KIRM	Wide midfielder	Support
MR	10 Valter BIRSA	Winger	Support
FCR	14 Zlatko DEDIC	Deep-lying forward	Attack
STl	11 Milivoje NOVAKOVIC	Target man	Attack

                        
Team Instructions                        

Philosophy	Very rigid
Passing	Default
Creative Freedom	Less freedom
Closing Down	Default
Tackling	Default
Marking	Man
Crossing	Float
Roaming	Default
Main Strategy	Defend

            


USA

England vs USA

Starting Formation



Player Instructions                        

Pos.		Role	Duty
GK	1 Tim HOWARD	Keeper	Defend
DL	3 Carlos BOCANEGRA	Fullback	Support
DCl	15 Jay DeMERIT	Limited Defender	Defend
DCr	5 Oguchi ONYEWU	Limited Defender	Defend
DR	6 Steve CHERUNDOLO	Fullback	Support
DMCl	13 Ricardo CLARK	Defensive midfielder	Defend
DMCr	4 Michael BRADLEY	Defensive midfielder	Support
ML	8 Clint DEMPSEY	Winger	Attack
MR	10 Landon DONOVAN	Winger	Attack
FCl	20 Robbie FINDLEY	Deep-lying Forward	Attack
STr	Jozy Altidore	Poacher	Attack

                        
Team Instructions                        

Philosophy	Rigid
Passing	Direct
Creative Freedom	Less Freedom
Closing Down	Default
Tackling	Default
Marking	Default
Crossing	Default
Roaming	Default
Main Strategy	Counter

            

[Colin]

I've just blogged a little about the USA formation, as it is the one I'm currently using as my tactic of choice in FM2010.

http://www.colinharris.net/blogs/index.php/fabio-4-2-2-2-tactic-fm2010, scroll down a little as I prat on about stuff first.  Tactic download set included.

[rednwhitearmy]

levo, millie and cagiva keep up the good work!!

[Levo]

levo and millie keep up the good work!!

Thanks,

Alot of credit has to go to Cagiva as well who has been working hard to feed us with information.

[rednwhitearmy]

levo and millie keep up the good work!!

Thanks,

Alot of credit has to go to Cagiva as well who has been working hard to feed us with information.

sorry about that credit to cagiva too, will you be doing the germans? i would like too see how they lined up since i never got to see how they hammered the aussies

[Xulu]

As an American, I would like to add my own opinion of the USA setup.

The Right Back (CHERUNDOLO) is more usually adventurous. Perhaps placing the Left Back on Auto or Defend works better to contrast this without exposing the right.

I don't like the Winger role for DONOVAN and DEMPSEY. Advanced Playmaker might suit both a little more (as per the guide saying that role as a cross between Winger and Inside Forward). These guys really are the only highly creative outlets on the team, and I feel Winger doesn't do them justice for contrasting effect.

Also don't know how I feel about FINDLEY given attack duties. But Support doesn't seem to fit either.

Most of the Instructions seem to be accurate. The Default ones are the only ones that different players would need different things for.

[cagiva]

1) About Cherundolo - in that match both fullbacks doesn't venture forward often. They sat back,looking to neutralise the England's wingers/wide-players. In certain situation they did have the opportunity to go forward but didn't to that as pure attacking fullback/wing-back - just bacause they didn't want to go one-on-one with the England's players. They go forward without the ball,but very cautiously and thinking about not to leave their zone empty.

2) About both Wingers - yes,that's true. Both of them are the most creative USA players. But to replicate their behaviour in this match we should instruct them as "wingers". They both run with the ball,pass the ball and cross the ball. They rarely cut inside with the ball,but move inside off the ball alot. And if we instruct them as "wingers" they will do that and will have the movement freedom to roam around their starting placemenet.

3) About Findley - he is DLP,with attack duty. That's because he was the deeper of the two ,but wasn't the playmaking forward ( as example Robbie Keane ). He was the deeper but was more attacking-oriented.

[Mani-dona]

I thought that Milner/SWP would be considered the Inside Forward, and Lennon the winger. On the left, SWP tended to attempt to cut inside a lot and I thought that the lack of width on the left was a problem - especially with Cole being unable to be adventurous.

[cagiva]

Milner was defensive oriented through the first half. He rarely,if not never,attempt a run with the ball or offensive off the ball movement.

During second half SWP tended to cut inside just because his strong foot is the right one. So it's more than logical that he will use that foot,not the left. But his overall style of play doesn't suit the tag "inside forward". He was more like "inside dribbler and crosser"  type of play - tending to recieve the ball on the touchline,then just make a run with it and attemp crossing. It was just once that he attempt a more adcanced run with the ball/off the ball movement but his shoot was terrible. He rarely look like Messi or C.Ronaldo or others pure "inside forwards".

[SFraser]

Do England even produce Inside Forwards?

[Levo]

No, but I think that it is the best role that we have in the tactical creator that matches his role. The movement that he keeps cutting inside and attacking the goal instead of trying to play it out wide and putting crosses in means it is hard to see him as a winger. Hopefully we will see some more roles in FM 2011 that will match his actual role as an inside out winger.

[SFraser]

No, but I think that it is the best role that we have in the tactical creator that matches his role. The movement that he keeps cutting inside and attacking the goal instead of trying to play it out wide and putting crosses in means it is hard to see him as a winger. Hopefully we will see some more roles in FM 2011 that will match his actual role as an inside out winger.

Yeah seems fair.

Though I was having a sly dig at the fact that the country where Thierry Henry and Cristiano Ronaldo made their careers has managed to conspire to produce Gerrard, SWP, Milner and Lennon as their key widemen.

[Mani-dona]

Yeah I understand that to be an inside forward you need incredible intelligence and vision, and just cutting inside doesn't mean you play in that role. But a winger is not what he was either. Inside forward fits better than winger, I thought - but then again, I'm wrong a lot

[MHaaskivi]

1) About Cherundolo - in that match both fullbacks doesn't venture forward often. They sat back,looking to neutralise the England's wingers/wide-players. In certain situation they did have the opportunity to go forward but didn't to that as pure attacking fullback/wing-back - just bacause they didn't want to go one-on-one with the England's players. They go forward without the ball,but very cautiously and thinking about not to leave their zone empty.

Wouldn't that make his duty more automatic, though? Against England - where the team was trying to play a more controlled/counterattacking game - he stayed back, but many times over the past few friendlies he's played exactly as Xulu says.

I would tend to agree with Xulu on one of the two outside mids playing more advanced as well; however, I think that both of these things didn't show up in the England game because Bradley had the whole team set up more cautiously. Dempsey is usually a an inside forward on the outside left, while Donovan is an advanced playmaker on the right (they'll occasionally switch sides, but it's usually something along those lines).

As far as Findley goes, I'm not sure that the DLF role is most accurate. FM needs to create a "Clueless Striker" role for players like him. 

[Millie]

1) About Cherundolo - in that match both fullbacks doesn't venture forward often. They sat back,looking to neutralise the England's wingers/wide-players. In certain situation they did have the opportunity to go forward but didn't to that as pure attacking fullback/wing-back - just bacause they didn't want to go one-on-one with the England's players. They go forward without the ball,but very cautiously and thinking about not to leave their zone empty.

Wouldn't that make his duty more automatic, though? Against England - where the team was trying to play a more controlled/counterattacking game - he stayed back, but many times over the past few friendlies he's played exactly as Xulu says.

We're interested in how players played in specific games for this one. That's why we've included the "main strategy" in the team instructions whereas in the general tactics threads we haven't. "Automatic" isn't a duty we'll be using in these reports because it doesn't describe particularly well the shape and behaviour of the team in specific situations.